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Shamarice
PostPosted: 2010/03/23 11:45    Post subject:

Rästik wrote:
without windows or mac emulator?


Why using a mac emulator WoW supports native mac :S , you use a "emulator"for windows well it's not an emulator since it only adresses some api modules to give instructions to your WoW so those 5 or 6 files are indeed part of an "emulator" the rest is just native code.
Rästik
PostPosted: 2010/03/23 10:39    Post subject:

without windows or mac emulator?
Shamarice
PostPosted: 2010/03/23 0:47    Post subject:

Rästik wrote:
Do what everyone does.... you may not know why... but Windows is the cause of all your problems. (assuming you aren't using mac)
Blizzard really should make WoW playable on unix systems.
For example take one online multiplayer game that is availible for all Mac & PC (windows and unix).
you will get the best performance with linux.
same thing is with downloading anything if downloader is working correctly you can download faster and upload much faster with linux...

Bill Gates fails with windows
Blizzard fails with WoW not being availible on linux
I fail it is late and I am here reading/writing


WoW IS playable on Linux thank for playing bbkkthx, running it for years now on both my Linux as my Windows system.
Ellee!
PostPosted: 2010/03/22 19:47    Post subject:

nice rant but windows cant cause your DSL sync rate to be >200kbps
Rästik
PostPosted: 2010/03/22 18:29    Post subject:

Do what everyone does.... you may not know why... but Windows is the cause of all your problems. (assuming you aren't using mac)
Blizzard really should make WoW playable on unix systems.
For example take one online multiplayer game that is availible for all Mac & PC (windows and unix).
you will get the best performance with linux.
same thing is with downloading anything if downloader is working correctly you can download faster and upload much faster with linux...

Bill Gates fails with windows
Blizzard fails with WoW not being availible on linux
I fail it is late and I am here reading/writing
whitemikki
PostPosted: 2010/03/19 2:45    Post subject:

Yep. I changed filter and wire and thats all that stands between test box and my modem.

Its either a fault in the cable fromthe junction to my house of the modem.

My with my low connection speed wow is perfectly stable in 10 mans and all other areas of wow. As soon as 25 people start spamming it goes POP. Never DCs without 25 man combat so lowering the traffic is my only option atm. It didnt work so i am out of options short of getting the damrepair man out quicker to trace the fault.

The modem is pretty new (8 months) so thats BT problem as far as i am concerned so if iots that they can send a new one.

Lets see how it plays out. Thanks for all you info though people its really appreiciated.

Ellee! wrote:
Ok, some slight confusion here, dont bother with any of that combat log crap or disabling addons, you have a fault somewhere,

Your DSL Connection Rate :287 Kbps(DOWN-STREAM)

This is your sync speed, this should be >6000kbps (based on the info you have given) all the time, it should never really change much at all, the fact you have done a speed test and got this result means there is an error somewhere and it needs sorting.

Now BT's "jurisdiction" goes up to your test socket, anything beyond this is their fault, if you have your router plugged into the test socket and BT arent lying and it IS in your property and you STILL get a result of 287kbps then there is a problem with:

a) your microfilter
b) your router
c) your internal cables connecting the filter to your router (v v unlikely - just check for rips/tears)

If you can replace these with borrowed ones or the like to make 100% sure that its not your equipment then you are back on to BT.

However you say you have been in the test socket 2 days? Have you been checking your router page regularly for the sync speed? and made sure you have not been dropping to below 300kbps? Because this is what you need to do.
Ellee!
PostPosted: 2010/03/18 14:21    Post subject:

Ok, some slight confusion here, dont bother with any of that combat log crap or disabling addons, you have a fault somewhere,

Your DSL Connection Rate :287 Kbps(DOWN-STREAM)

This is your sync speed, this should be >6000kbps (based on the info you have given) all the time, it should never really change much at all, the fact you have done a speed test and got this result means there is an error somewhere and it needs sorting.

Now BT's "jurisdiction" goes up to your test socket, anything beyond this is their fault, if you have your router plugged into the test socket and BT arent lying and it IS in your property and you STILL get a result of 287kbps then there is a problem with:

a) your microfilter
b) your router
c) your internal cables connecting the filter to your router (v v unlikely - just check for rips/tears)

If you can replace these with borrowed ones or the like to make 100% sure that its not your equipment then you are back on to BT.

However you say you have been in the test socket 2 days? Have you been checking your router page regularly for the sync speed? and made sure you have not been dropping to below 300kbps? Because this is what you need to do.
Merke
PostPosted: 2010/03/18 14:10    Post subject:

This is like the nerds pornography thread...
Mystikael
PostPosted: 2010/03/18 13:59    Post subject:

whitemikki wrote:
well 2 days in the test port and my IP profile is the same.

Today I tried to Raid and chain DC'd. It can do 10 mans fine but not 25's.

I even turned off every addon i have to played wow in a freaky orginal WoW UI...was scary but didnt improve anything.


I used to have similar problems to yourself.

Try also changing your combat log to not record anything at all. It generates so much more spam in 25s than 10s and it helped me immensely.

Here's hoping you get it sorted soon, mate.
whitemikki
PostPosted: 2010/03/18 12:56    Post subject:

well 2 days in the test port and my IP profile is the same.

Today I tried to Raid and chain DC'd. It can do 10 mans fine but not 25's.

I even turned off every addon i have to played wow in a freaky orginal WoW UI...was scary but didnt improve anything.
whitemikki
PostPosted: 2010/03/17 12:00    Post subject:

I have had a message today. The engineer has traced the fault to my property.

Appearently it is my issue. Sill i will hardwire into the test port and see what happens

Mikki
Ellee!
PostPosted: 2010/03/17 7:49    Post subject:

couple of things to add if you want to trouble shoot your broadband, make sure that you are plugged into the BT TEST socket.

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Then run constant tests over a period of time and see if you remain stable at a decent speed, (did i hear 6Mpbs?) this will eliminate any chance of it being your problem, if you are already doing this then apologies Happy

Additionally switch microfilters etc to 100% make sure its not your fault, then once you do that you can open the QQ cannons and moan your ass off to those sons of bitches at BT.
Shamarice
PostPosted: 2010/03/17 6:57    Post subject:

whitemikki wrote:

(Thanks for helping me clear this up...hopefully the repair mans visit to the local junction will sort this out, seeling the picture of the wire bundles I wish him good luck Happy )



That just the ground cable it's pretty easy compared the junction gets all the cables like this

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whitemikki
PostPosted: 2010/03/17 6:54    Post subject:

Ellee I no longer like you.

I had someone to blame and shout at and now you make it sound liek thay are not lying to me at all and I do infact have an Error like thay said.

Please remove you post so i can go back to being a grumpy conspiracy theorist and return to my plan to deliver urine soaked mail to the directors of the obviously corrupt organisation.

(Thanks for helping me clear this up...hopefully the repair mans visit to the local junction will sort this out, seeling the picture of the wire bundles I wish him good luck Happy )

Ellee! wrote:
your upload speed is on a different frequency to your download speed and generally does not have an effect when discussing errors like this.

the bras profile works to "protect" your line speed, keeping it at a level which wont cause you to disconnect if your line speed drops.

If you have a line which is constantly jumping form 8Mbps to 0.3Mbps the bras profile will write itself to just under 0.25Mbps regardless of how often you spend at 8Mbps, it sounds to me like you have an unstable line.

Your DSL Connection Rate :287 Kbps(DOWN-STREAM), 1189 Kbps(UP-STREAM)

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This right here should be CONSTANT - should never change, or change very slightly, what you posted here points to an error on the line.

edit: If your line rate does become constant the BRAS profile will reset itself to the new level, this can take 10days.
Shamarice
PostPosted: 2010/03/17 6:06    Post subject:

Ellee! wrote:
your upload speed is on a different frequency to your download speed and generally does not have an effect when discussing errors like this.


Little Educational post for the people interested and to clarify Ellee's point :

Actually the frequency spectrum for both upload and download are all in different ranges

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Here you can clearly see that the frequency spectrum of upstream is on a lower frequency which means basically this :

The higher the frequency to more error sensitive is. That's why you never hear / rarely hear problems about analog phone systems because there in the lowest frequency possible ( the normal POTS system not that crap ISP offer today since there in the high frequency spectrum )

Now we get to the second part that is your actual access line which in the end is just a simple copper wire.

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Here you can see because of it being a copper wire you have multiple scenario's, first you have to take into degree that copper is sensitive to ground level water for corrosion and second you need to know the chemical compound of the copper wire which determines the "resistance and reflection ) of the frequency inside that copper wire.

Then imagine that small lines need to pass trough it the best result is a full straight line but unfortunately nobody can do that since the copper pair that end in your house are bundled like this :

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So the educational session comes down to this :

- Speeds are dependent on the length and/or reflection en degradation of the signal within the copper wire.
- Speeds are determined by frequency levels inside that copper wire.

Combine those and you see some reason why this is a very plausible explanation to why your upload can be intact while your download is suffering.