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re: Alexuul DK Tank [Accepted]
by Mystikael on 2010/04/21 2:39
The loss of 7 Stamina for a movement speed increase is a fair tradeoff tbh, especially since DKs don't get to zip around like Warriors do.
The PvP shoulder enchant is pretty nice again for the stamina but it won't make or break your tanking. I've been tanking with the conventional tanking enchant for some time and only just recently swapped. The extra health is nice, but it hasn't suddenly caused me to become unkillable.
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re: Alexuul DK Tank [Accepted]
by Laerel1 on 2010/04/21 2:41
Movement speed should be mandatory for all raiders, running (see wut I did thar?) without it is just letting yourself and the raid down.
Also the Stamina/resil shoulder enchant is vastly superior to the soh one, resilience does work in pve you know.
Glad to see peope do research before applying.
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re: Alexuul DK Tank [Accepted]
by Mystikael on 2010/04/21 2:45
Whilst resilience does work in PvE, it does nothing for you once you are crit-immune, which you should be without the shoulder enchant. The damage reduction applies specifically to player-sourced damage.
However, the huge bonus to Stamina is a worthy tradeoff at higher levels.
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re: Alexuul DK Tank [Accepted]
by Nilieth/Mymri on 2010/04/21 2:45
Quote: | why the 15 stam/speed while there is a more HP enchant out there? |
*facepalms*
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re: Alexuul DK Tank [Accepted]
by Laerel1 on 2010/04/21 2:46
Mystikal / Adun wrote: | Whilst resilience does work in PvE, it does nothing for you once you are crit-immune, which you should be without the shoulder enchant. The damage reduction applies specifically to player-sourced damage.
However, the huge bonus to Stamina is a worthy tradeoff at higher levels. |
The DoT reduction part works too
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re: Alexuul DK Tank [Accepted]
by Nilieth/Mymri on 2010/04/21 2:49
Laerel1 wrote: | Mystikal / Adun wrote: | Whilst resilience does work in PvE, it does nothing for you once you are crit-immune, which you should be without the shoulder enchant. The damage reduction applies specifically to player-sourced damage.
However, the huge bonus to Stamina is a worthy tradeoff at higher levels. |
The DoT reduction part works too |
There is no DoT reduction part. This is all merged into one 'all damage done by players'. It reduces the damage of crits and the amount of mana drained, which, yes, is useless after you're critcapped.
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re: Alexuul DK Tank [Accepted]
by Laerel1 on 2010/04/21 2:51
Well when I last bothered to research my itemisation choices for tanking there was!!
So there!
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re: Alexuul DK Tank [Accepted]
by Nilieth/Mymri on 2010/04/21 2:56
Laerel1 wrote: | Well when I last bothered to research my itemisation choices for tanking there was!!
So there! |
Lae sucks.
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re: Alexuul DK Tank [Accepted]
by Laerel1 on 2010/04/21 3:03
Well yeah....wait
what?
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re: Alexuul DK Tank [Accepted]
by Nilieth/Mymri on 2010/04/21 3:26
Laerel1 wrote: | Well yeah....wait
what? |
You get me <3
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re: Alexuul DK Tank [Accepted]
by Paktaï on 2010/04/21 6:14
Mystikal / Adun wrote: | Whilst resilience does work in PvE, it does nothing for you once you are crit-immune, which you should be without the shoulder enchant. |
So untrue ... BiS ( crafted ) legs and T10 both dont have def ... compared to other items around those Ilvls thats a drop of around 180def(??) wich is why I wasnt "def capped" without the resi untill I got the HM shield
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re: Alexuul DK Tank [Accepted]
by Mystikael on 2010/04/21 7:10
Silly squid, you avoid using those pieces until you can be def-capped without them
That'd be like me taking non-hit spellcasting pieces without having hit elsewhere to make it up!
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re: Alexuul DK Tank [Accepted]
by Paktaï on 2010/04/21 7:12
Mystikal / Adun wrote: | Silly squid, you avoid using those pieces until you can be def-capped without them |
Hell no ...
Calc what is the absolute Min you need to get the Max out of ure char :D
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re: Alexuul DK Tank [Accepted]
by Xulgos on 2010/04/21 8:02
ok....I love you all very much, but either get a room or continue the theorycrafting somewhere else
I was just wondering what the applicants story was:)
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re: Alexuul Dk tank
by Alexuul. on 2010/04/21 15:47
Laerel>>> i Use (+15sta + movment increase) becouse my spec dont have impruve movment increase , and in Icc there are fights whit a lot of moving so i fink (+15sta + movment increase) is a good idd.
and abaut shoulders enchant in icc dodge is a big probleem and Dk use dodge and pary no block lick warr or paly use.
But if Xulgos tell me to go for Pvp enchant i well and same abaut feet.
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